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Fjursternberg: Excuse, mister Rejter, I did not want to touch you...
Rejter: you are brought up in a religious family, Maria. You believe in God.
Fjursternberg: Yes, but reincarnation... Here so much disputable, uncertain, doubtful...
Rejter: And God? Unless it not a doubtful question, unless it is deprived uncertainty? And nevertheless you trust.
Fjursternberg: I Trust. Perhaps simply because me have accustomed... The Habit - a difficult piece. She allows not to reflect.
Rejter: you only trust, and I know well! Catch a difference?
Fjursternberg: But you consist in party. You should have a materialistic thinking. Whence in you such bent for to the mystic?
Rejter: Materialistic thinking? And who to you has told, what the science about infinite regeneration of the person is not materialistic? Dying of leaves on trees in the autumn and their new occurrence in the spring - what is it? Mysticism? A new body of a leaf with former filling of soul of a tree. Materialistically it or is mystical? Unless business in the name?. And that before my membership in party here that I will tell to you. Any party exists to give only to its heads to reach to the power and to keep it in the hands. The party in power gives the chance to be covered with the strongest board and to do under cover of this board anything you like. I need to be engaged in that area of the science which existence anybody, only would not admit present management SS. To me has carried that rejhsfjurer SS it is keen on mysticism.
Fjursternberg: you want to tell, what an occultism in present Germany - is not simple the general fashion? Really every possible mystical sects exist with the consent of the higher heads?
Rejter: Rejhsfjurer SS we will gain an occultism, Rudolf Gess too.
Fjursternberg: Gess? The second person in the state!
Rejter: the Trouble that Himmler only plays an occultism. Really it understands nothing this area. It is involved with attributes, instead of an essence. Whether you know, Maria, what Himmler has restored one of medieval castles and has arranged there headquarters of the Black Award?
Fjursternberg: What is the Black Award?
Fjursternberg: Unless your organisation has any relation to knights? It seemed to me that you simply military people.
Rejter: you do not understand, Maria. SS does not concern the state military vehicle. We - out of the state. SS it was created as system of security groups of party, but then became independent structure, an independent organism. In SS the laws correct, there are rituals and so on. It only seems that Himmler is in the service of Hitler. Actually it was involved in the game which sense itself does not understand. The huge power is given it. The unique force, capable to resist to it and even displace it, are military men. Vermaht does not love SS, almost hates. In the military environment it is a lot of aristocrats, and in SS are typed - both in the lowest structure, and in a management - basically people limited, primitive with which are easy for manipulating. Himmler and Hitler the outer side interests only has put: a hair colour, colour of eyes, cranium volume... What bosh! The Reich which they create with such furious enthusiasm, will fail because of them skudoumija, without having had time to arise.
Fjursternberg: you nonplus me, mister Rejter. To listen to you so you are the ardent opponent of a present mode. But you - member SS, have the high rank.
Rejter: I use the possibility given to me. Do not rise so highly Himmler, at me never would appear a case to pursue science. And what science! Maria, each person should use the chance. God will not forgive to us if we pass by by the possibilities given to us.
Fjursternberg: In it you are right. But me frightens that you, referring to God, all the same make cruelty, serving present Germany.
Rejter: Any state repairs cruelty and injustice. The history does not know the government which would serve interests of the population. No! Any state corrects only in the personal interests, it will crush everyone who will try to raise a voice against it. Therefore it is necessary to be able to find the niche in machinery of state. It is necessary for a survival.
Fjursternberg: you are cynical.
Rejter: I am extremely fair. Usually people are afraid to be fair up to the end because do not want to admit that it is accepted to name defect. Any of us makes thousand unseemly acts and without effort finds it serious substantiations. And I do not search for justifications. I speak openly: "Yes, I quite often do to people painfully". But descendants will tell to me for these thanks.
Fjursternberg: Perhaps, for today there are enough conversations. And here that, mister Rejter, let's not go to theatre. I feel... The overloaded.
Rejter (with strong pressing): you should vanish. I insist. Understand that to theatre now not to get simply so. Tickets not to get, they are always sold in advance or reserved for military men being in holiday. And you do not want to offend me refusal?
Fjursterberg (after long fluctuation): Well.
They have sat down in the car and have left. I did not manage to get with them to theatre, therefore I waited for the termination of performance nearby to their car. On the playbill it has been specified that the leading role is executed by Gustav Grjungens.
After performance of Rejter with the companion lodge in the car and at once have gone to its house. There they have quickly said goodbye and have left.
After that I have handed over supervision.